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		<title>Hardware, Software, Civilized Chimps</title>
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		<content type="html" mode="escaped" xml:base="">Two of the most interesting discussions to come up in had to do with artificial intelligence. The first of these was the challenge of whether &lt;a href=&#039;http://more.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;more&lt;/a&gt; progress has been made over the past 30 years in hardware or software. I made reference to a portion of communicate at the Singularity Summit:
In the intelligence explosion the key threshold is criticality of recursive self-improvement. It&rsquo;s not enough to undergo an AI that improves &lt;a href=&#039;http://itself.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;itself&lt;/a&gt; a little. It has to be able to improve itself enough to significantly increase its ability to make further self-improvements which sounds to me like a software issue not a hardware issue. So there is a challenge of. Can you predict that threshold using Moore&rsquo;s Law at all? Geordie Rose of D-Wave Systems recently was kind enough to give us with a startling illustration of software progress versus hardware develop. Suppose you want to factor a 75-digit number. Would you rather have a 2007 supercomputer. IBM&rsquo;s color Gene/L running an algorithm from 1977 or a 1977 computer an Apple II running a 2007 algorithm? And Geordie Rose calculated that Blue Gene/L with 1977&rsquo;s algorithm would take ten years and an Apple II with 2007&rsquo;s algorithm would take three years.
This &lt;a href=&#039;http://point.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;point&lt;/a&gt; was hotly disputed by more than one of the attendees. (It was even described as being &quot;counter-factual.&quot;) I think the real question is how generally applicable the progress made with factoring a 75-digit number is to everything else that&#039;s being done with software. However several other types of algorithms were mentioned in which tremendous develop has been achieved over the past 30 years -- graphics rendering for example. The question of whether progress in these areas represents a general trend is beyond my expertise. But I did promise the group to give a link to Eli&#039;s talk so there it is.
The other good discussion ensued from Doug Robertson&#039;s assertion that essentially no develop has been made &lt;a href=&#039;http://towards.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;towards&lt;/a&gt; the Turing test in 50 years of AI research. Doug apparently has an excellent point here. The chatbots of today aren&#039;t much more convincing than programs written in the 50&#039;s and 60&#039;s. And nothing out there today can go the test.
But maybe this says less &lt;a href=&#039;http://about.obscureblogs.com/&#039;&gt;about&lt;/a&gt; the state of progress in Artificial Intelligence &lt;a href=&#039;http://research.mortgageblogs.net/&#039;&gt;research&lt;/a&gt; and more about the suitability of the Turing test to measure its progress. Let&#039;s say that rather than taking on the task of making machines that are intelligent humanity was working on a different project -- introducing civilization to chimpanzees. Now &quot;civilization&quot; is a difficult thing to define much less measure so we need a compelling challenge to drive us towards our goal of civilizing the chimps. Human civilization has many defining characteristics and surely our ability to act and acknowledge objects of beauty is one of the finest and most purely civilized of these attributes.
Thus is born the Sistine Chapel test. To wit -- as soon as chimps can produce a reasonable chimpy facsimile of the Sistine Chapel we ordain allow that they are civilized. 
So the project gets rolling along. We set some chimps up in a crude village and start helping them to create a language and rudimentary governmental and economic structures. Also we get them working on developing their artistic skills seeing as those will be crucial to establishing chimp civilization. It&#039;s pretty slow going at first although we can probably use analogs from existing chimp culture as a jumping off inform. Every 50 years or so we formally analyse in with the chimp civilization to see how well they&#039;re doing. 
And every 50 years we&#039;re disappointed. We sight that chimps are good for all kinds of low-level activities that support civilization -- building huts planting crops making fishing nets -- but their artistic skills never &lt;a href=&#039;http://seem.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;seem&lt;/a&gt; to progress much beyond making some scratches in the stone albeit 
scratches in some of the later stages and -- eventually -- throwing some very lumpy and discouraging-looking pots.
About 500 years into the project it is noted that half a millennium has yielded little progress towards the Sistine Chapel evaluate. This observation is &lt;a href=&#039;http://correct.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;correct&lt;/a&gt; inasmuch as chimp art is comfort at a very primitive stage. However over that time the village has grown into a small city-state complete with a monarchy warrior class merchant class and priestly class. Food production has been outsourced to rural hunting farming and fishing chimps. The chimps are making real progress at transcribing their developing language into written create. While the visual arts mouth along chimpanzee poetry drama and music are all taking shape.
It would seem to be indisputable that these chimps are more civilized now than they were 500 years ago. And yet this &lt;a href=&#039;http://idea.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;idea&lt;/a&gt; 
disputed. After all many of the cultural divisions noted above have vestigial precedents in wild chimp grow. And their use of spoken and written language may not be &quot;real.&quot; They may just be imitating human behavior very cleverly. The argument seems to be that once chimps achieve a certain aim of behavior we no longer evaluate of that &lt;a href=&#039;http://level.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;level&lt;/a&gt; of behavior as being &quot;civilized.&quot;
The chimpanzee civilization may be a long way from creating their own Sistine Chapel but the scientists running the Chimp Civilization Project have a much clearer idea now than they did 500 years ago of the complexities involved in creating civilization from adjoin. Some have begun to dare to query whether the Sistine Chapel is such a big deal. What if chimp civilization goes in a radically different direction? What if they advance in ways such that their accomplishments are never directly comparable with ours? Will that mean that they aren&#039;t civilized? Others continue to fret about the Big Test and despair that their simian pupils will never make the grade.
Seems to me that this is pretty much the state of artificial intelligence research. While computers continue to take on more and more of the hallmarks of intelligence critics are able to (correctly) point out that we appear to be making no progress towards passing the big test. My take is that either all this less-relevant progress is more relevant than we thought or the test itself is of questionable relevance. 
I think the 75 bit factorization is a bad example. The problem is limited and unchanging. Factoring such a number in 1977 is the same assign as doing so in 2007. Now imagine a more general task. For example it&#039;s obvious that no computer of 1977 could run Windows XP. 2000 or Vista. Writing is feasible on 1977 technology (eg using a running linux). It can&#039;t handle graphics but that leaves a lot of cram. No similar program of 1977 was &lt;a href=&#039;http://available.musicalblogs.com/&#039;&gt;available&lt;/a&gt; to create documents of the quality of LaTeX now. 
However. I&#039;d say there&#039;s indications that the computers of yesteryear were more efficiently used (by orders of magnitude) by their software than the machines of today are by their software. 
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		<title>Google PageRank - The Day After</title>
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		<content type="html" mode="escaped" xml:base="">Unless you slept &lt;a href=&#039;http://through.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;through&lt;/a&gt; yesterday or perish the thought actually did &lt;a href=&#039;http://something.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;something&lt;/a&gt; other than sit in front of your computer you will &lt;a href=&#039;http://know.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;know&lt;/a&gt; that Google finally rolled out it&#039;s long awaited update. For the past two weeks Google has been devaluing the of a lot of big name sites - another major Google slap as it were. The blogosphere moaned and called Google every nasty name in the book for imposing what is thought to be a penalty on everybody selling links without using the no-follow tag. Another theory is that the penalty was applied to everybody that belonged to link networks like weblogs inc etc. I say theory as with everything Google nobody really knows since Google ain&#039;t tellin&#039;. (see a word to the &lt;a href=&#039;http://wise.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;wise&lt;/a&gt; below)Yesterday Google reversed course and began dishing out it&#039;s new rankings and suddenly there was Google love everywhere. Hordes of formally PR0 sites suddenly found themselves blessed with PR2&#039;s and 3&#039;s and even the penalized sites saw some or all of their pagerank returned - adding ever more confusion and mystery to the internet God known as the Google Algorithm. I didn&#039;t bother posting yesterday as there was no shortage of posts elsewhere and I was busy checking out the results of my own little empire. In the end what I found was more or less what I expected - my websites dropped - my static blogs remained about the same and my core &lt;a href=&#039;http://money.joinblogs.com/&#039;&gt;money&lt;/a&gt; blogs all rose fairly dramatically. All in all I wasn&#039;t that surprised as I knew what the results would be long before Google posted them. No I don&#039;t have an insider at Google. I knew from observing what was happening on my stat counter over the past month. My websites have more or less been neglected by me as they require a great deal of work compared to blogs and really don&#039;t rank as well as blogs on the search engines even when maintained. I should qualify this and mention I am talking about only. Niche blogs &lt;a href=&#039;http://free.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;free&lt;/a&gt; or hosted have been kicking butt for some time now. My website stats have showed declining traffic as a result of lower serp&#039;s for my main keywords for a while now and this told me that my sites were on the way down as far as pagerank was concerned. In regards to my blogs I have a large group that I post sporadically to - in most cases I worked them onto page 1 of the serp&#039;s just to find out that there wasn&#039;t a lot of money to be made from them and have since kept them at a status quo - they make a few bucks but not enough to get me excited. They have not fallen or risen in the serp&#039;s for some time now and I didn&#039;t expect any PR changes and I didn&#039;t get any. My core blogs - this one included have been climbing the serp&#039;s steadily for the past few months and this above all told me that they would receive a much higher PR after the update and they did - this blog jumped from a 2 to a 5. The fact is this blog has been a PR5 for a while now - it was only yesterday that the little green bar changed to reflect this fact. I don&#039;t want to rain on everybody&#039;s parade but you should realize something - your site will not &lt;a href=&#039;http://perform.careerchangeblogs.com/&#039;&gt;perform&lt;/a&gt; better today than it did last week. If your little green bar is higher today it means that your site has been performing at that level for a while now. Don&#039;t expect a now - you&#039;ve already had it for some time now. I received an email from one of my readers this morning and he wanted to know why his position in the search pages hadn&#039;t increased from yesterday. He went from a PR2 to a PR4. I asked him where he ranked currently - number 9 on page 1 for his. I asked him how long he has been in that position. 3 weeks he said. Where were you before that? Page 4 on Google he said. I told him that he became a PR4 3 weeks ago. Oh.. he said. This is not to say that PR is not important. It is for many reasons; you can command a higher $ from advertisers. You can also use your PR to send link love to new sites you create and help out your friends. Having a high PR will also make you more &lt;a href=&#039;http://friends.poemsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;friends&lt;/a&gt; as well - people will pay attention to you as suddenly you MUST be doing something right. The higher your PR the more authority you will have regardless of whether this is true or not. A word to the wise. Google has publicly stated that paid links are a no-no and that it will crack down on this practice. In principle they have a valid point. To maintain the integrity of their search engine they want to present relevant quality sites in their serp&#039;s. Pagerank is one of the methods they use (but not the ONLY method) to determine which pages rank at the top of the listings for any given search query. The problem they are facing is that people who may or may not have quality sites are artificially increasing their pagerank by buying links from sites that have a high pagerank. If you were to get a link from a PR7 site this could conceivably increase your site to a PR6 instantly - even if you had been a PR0. This would certainly increase your chances of being listed high in the search listings. Great except your site might be crap and you have lessened the search engine integrity. There is a recent movement by bloggers to adopt a &quot;do-follow&quot; or &quot;I-follow&quot; approach when it comes to linking especially in regards to comments. The idea being that this will increase comments and hence if people can obtain links back to their own site by &lt;a href=&#039;http://leaving.musicalblogs.com/&#039;&gt;leaving&lt;/a&gt; comments on other sites. I was curious to see how Google would deal with this and it appears that they have left it alone in this latest update. They may well have devalued the link juice gained by comment but at least there don&#039;t appear to be any penalties handed out. This can not be said about another recent trend in blogging - paid text ads and reviews. You are probably familiar with Text-Link-Ads. Review Me? and PayPerPost. A lot of bloggers are using these programs as a way to earn revenue on their sites. I am just guessing but I think Text-Link-Ads is just about done as it exists solely for the purpose of buying and selling links that pass Pagerank on to others. A lot of sites that felt the recent Google slap had advertisements for this program on their home page. You might want to think about this before getting involved with it. ReviewMe? and PayPerPost may survive but they may have to become advertising and consulting programs only. Currently you can make money by being paid to review someone else&#039;s site on your site. Google doesn&#039;t have a problem with this as long as you include the &quot;no-follow&quot; tag in the paid link. The problem is that most people paying for a review are asking high PR sites for the review with the knowledge that they will get a backlink from the high PR site that doesn&#039;t contain the &quot;no-follow&quot; tag. This is the whole premise &lt;a href=&#039;http://behind.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;behind&lt;/a&gt; these programs at the moment as exemplified by the fact that the higher your PR the more you can charge for a review. This will soon stop or the reviewer sites will see their pagerank diminished by Google. In the end you will have to have a high traffic site to really make money selling reviews using a &quot;no-follow&quot;. This will hurt a lot of high PR yet low traffic sites that currently sell reviews as no one will want to pay them for a backlink that doesn&#039;t have any benefit other than sending a low amount of traffic. If you use these programs I can&#039;t tell you which way to go but the latest Google crackdown on paid links should give you pause about whether to use the &quot;no-follow&quot; tag or not. That said those of you who gained PR this go-round enjoy your little green bar and hopefully we can all make money from it without pissing off Google in the process. Oh. if you gained a high PR you may notice a sudden increase in spam comments - gotta love those spammers. Do any of these clowns actually or do they just enjoy annoying the rest of us?Cheers,Grizzly
Hey Grizzly,Congratulations on your PR5 - that is really cool! I wonder how the big G feel about sites like ours that give a lot of good relevant &lt;a href=&#039;http://content.createblogs.org/&#039;&gt;content&lt;/a&gt; but still making a few bucks from selling links? Fair dues if they hit crap sites with high PR doing it but good sites? I wonder if they differentiate?I think the time has come to do away with the useless textLink ad banner on my site - I haven&#039;t earned a red cent from them yet so I wonder if I might just as well call it quits and try and attract my own ads. I have taken advantage of PayPerPost suddenly offering me two pages of paid reviews where before I was lucky to see two or three irrelevant ones. Things to think about... Terry
Hi Terry,Thanks and congrats on your sites as well. I didn&#039;t check them all but the ones I did all had a nice bump. The problem with the Google bot is that it doesn&#039;t differentiate and this put egg on Google&#039;s face over this past week. Two very mainstream bloggers - problogger and copyblogger were both penalized in the slap last week yet were innocent of selling links. The outrage on the blogosphere was enough to convince Google to manually correct their error and give them back their PR. Other&#039;s like John Chow haven&#039;t been so lucky. It appears that Google only went after the big guns re selling links this time around knowing that the message would get out to everyone else in a hurry and it has. I would stay clear of text-link-ads as you hinted of doing and you may want to consider the no-follow if doing paid reviews. I suspect that the next slap will include everybody running afoul of Google&#039;s edicts and not just the high profile sites. I am only speculating of course. One thing I did notice is that Google did reward a lot of sites like yours that offer quality and original content - something they have said they would do. Kudos my friend for a job well done. Hey Tey.. wow that rhymes way to go. Congrats on your PR3 as well. As I said to Terry you might have to go the no-follow route for your paid reviews in the future as well. I would wait and see for the time being though - word will spread fast if payperpost and reviewme sites become targeted by Google. If you are wondering how you got the 3 it&#039;s because you write original content and post often. Maybe the Google Bot knows what a nice person you are too! Ha. Thanks for stopping by you two. Grizzly
There&#039;s a wee problem with putting nofollow on paid reviews and that&#039;s because the likes of PayPerPost will reject a review if it doesn&#039;t use the link exactly as given and that includes using target=&quot;_blank&quot; to stop visitors clicking away from the site. Maybe I can add the nofollow after they have paid me for the review - that only leaves the backlink alive for about a month. I&#039;ll try that on a couple of older posts and see if they complain about it. Can&#039;t see that they would unless the advertiser themselves get wind of it and complain to PPP - maybe it could get my account deleted! I can&#039;t afford to lose that too. Losing adsense was a huge blow and despite my re-applying they haven&#039;t given me a decision yet - it&#039;s been over a week which might be good news or it might not... We&#039;ll seeTerry :-)
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		<title>Google PageRank - The Day After</title>
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		<content type="html" mode="escaped" xml:base="">Unless you slept through yesterday or perish the thought actually did something other than sit in front of your &lt;a href=&#039;http://computer.computerblogs.net/&#039;&gt;computer&lt;/a&gt; you &lt;a href=&#039;http://will.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;will&lt;/a&gt; know that &lt;a href=&#039;http://google.writerblogs.net/&#039;&gt;Google&lt;/a&gt; finally rolled out it&#039;s long awaited update. For the past two weeks Google has been devaluing the of a lot of big name sites - another major Google slap as it were. The blogosphere moaned and called Google every nasty name in the book for imposing what is thought to be a penalty on everybody selling links without using the no-follow tag. Another theory is that the penalty was applied to everybody that belonged to link networks like weblogs inc etc. I say theory as with everything Google nobody really knows since Google ain&#039;t tellin&#039;. (see a word to the wise below)Yesterday Google reversed course and began dishing out it&#039;s new rankings and suddenly there was Google love everywhere. Hordes of formally PR0 sites suddenly found themselves blessed with PR2&#039;s and 3&#039;s and even the penalized sites saw some or all of their pagerank returned - adding ever more confusion and mystery to the internet God known as the Google Algorithm. I didn&#039;t bother posting yesterday as there was no shortage of posts elsewhere and I was busy checking out the results of my own little empire. In the end what I found was more or &lt;a href=&#039;http://less.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;less&lt;/a&gt; what I expected - my websites dropped - my static blogs remained about the same and my core money blogs all rose fairly dramatically. All in all I wasn&#039;t that surprised as I knew what the results would be long before Google posted them. No I don&#039;t have an insider at Google. I knew from observing what was happening on my stat counter over the past month. My websites have more or less been neglected by me as they require a great deal of work compared to blogs and really don&#039;t rank as well as blogs on the search engines even when maintained. I should qualify this and mention I am talking about only. Niche blogs free or hosted have been kicking butt for some time now. My website stats have showed declining traffic as a result of lower serp&#039;s for my main keywords for a while now and this told me that my sites were on the way down as far as pagerank was concerned. In regards to my blogs I have a large group that I post sporadically to - in most cases I worked them onto page 1 of the serp&#039;s just to find out that there wasn&#039;t a lot of money to be made from them and have since kept them at a status quo - they make a few bucks but not enough to get me excited. They have not fallen or risen in the serp&#039;s for some time now and I didn&#039;t expect any PR changes and I didn&#039;t get any. My core blogs - this one included have been climbing the serp&#039;s steadily for the past few months and this above all told me that they would receive a much higher PR after the update and they did - this blog jumped from a 2 to a 5. The fact is this blog has been a PR5 for a while now - it was only yesterday that the little green bar changed to reflect this fact. I don&#039;t want to rain on everybody&#039;s parade but you should realize something - your site will not perform better &lt;a href=&#039;http://today.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;today&lt;/a&gt; than it did last week. If your little green bar is higher today it means that your site has been performing at that level for a while now. Don&#039;t expect a now - you&#039;ve already had it for some time now. I received an email from one of my readers this morning and he wanted to know why his position in the search pages hadn&#039;t increased from yesterday. He went from a PR2 to a PR4. I asked him where he ranked currently - number 9 on page 1 for his. I asked him how long he has been in that position. 3 weeks he said. Where were you before that? Page 4 on Google he said. I told him that he became a PR4 3 weeks ago. Oh.. he said. This is not to say that PR is not important. It is for many reasons; you can command a higher $ from advertisers. You can also use your PR to send link love to new sites you create and help out your friends. Having a high PR will also make you more friends as well - people will pay attention to you as suddenly you MUST be doing something right. The higher your PR the more authority you will have regardless of whether this is true or not. A word to the wise. Google has publicly stated that paid links are a no-no and that it will crack down on this practice. In principle they have a valid point. To maintain the integrity of their search engine they want to present relevant quality sites in their serp&#039;s. Pagerank is one of the methods they use (but not the ONLY method) to determine which pages rank at the top of the listings for any given search query. The problem they are facing is that people who may or may not have quality sites are artificially increasing their pagerank by buying links from sites that have a high pagerank. If you were to get a link from a PR7 site this could conceivably increase your site to a PR6 instantly - even if you had been a PR0. This would certainly increase your chances of being listed high in the search listings. Great except your site might be crap and you have lessened the search engine integrity. There is a recent movement by bloggers to adopt a &quot;do-follow&quot; or &quot;I-follow&quot; approach when it comes to linking especially in regards to comments. The idea being that this will increase comments and hence if people can obtain links back to their own site by leaving comments on other sites. I was curious to see how Google would deal with this and it appears that they have left it alone in this latest update. They may well have devalued the link juice gained by comment but at &lt;a href=&#039;http://least.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;least&lt;/a&gt; there don&#039;t appear to be any penalties handed out. This can not be said about another recent trend in blogging - paid text ads and reviews. You are probably familiar with Text-Link-Ads. Review Me? and PayPerPost. A lot of bloggers are using these programs as a way to earn revenue on their sites. I am just guessing but I think Text-Link-Ads is just about done as it exists solely for the purpose of buying and selling links that pass Pagerank on to others. A lot of sites that felt the recent Google slap had advertisements for this program on their home page. You might want to think about this before getting involved with it. ReviewMe? and PayPerPost may survive but they may have to become advertising and consulting programs only. Currently you can make money by being paid to review someone else&#039;s site on your site. Google doesn&#039;t have a problem with this as long as you include the &quot;no-follow&quot; tag in the paid link. The problem is that most people paying for a review are asking high PR sites for the review with the knowledge that they will get a backlink from the high PR site that doesn&#039;t contain the &quot;no-follow&quot; tag. This is the whole premise behind these programs at the moment as exemplified by the fact that the higher your PR the more you can charge for a review. This will soon stop or the reviewer sites will see their pagerank diminished by Google. In the end you will have to have a high traffic site to really make money selling reviews using a &quot;no-follow&quot;. This will hurt a lot of high PR yet low traffic sites that currently sell reviews as no one will want to pay them for a backlink that doesn&#039;t have any benefit other than &lt;a href=&#039;http://sending.emailpalblogs.com/&#039;&gt;sending&lt;/a&gt; a low amount of traffic. If you use these programs I can&#039;t &lt;a href=&#039;http://tell.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;tell&lt;/a&gt; you which way to go but the latest Google crackdown on paid links should give you pause about whether to use the &quot;no-follow&quot; tag or not. That said those of you who gained PR this go-round enjoy your little green bar and hopefully we can all make money from it without pissing off Google in the process. Oh. if you gained a high PR you may notice a sudden increase in spam comments - gotta love those spammers. Do any of these clowns actually or do they just enjoy annoying the rest of us?Cheers,Grizzly
Hey Grizzly,Congratulations on your PR5 - that is really cool! I wonder how the big G feel about sites like ours that give a lot of good relevant content but still making a few bucks from selling links? Fair dues if they hit crap sites with high PR doing it but good sites? I wonder if they differentiate?I think the time has come to do away with the useless textLink ad banner on my site - I haven&#039;t &lt;a href=&#039;http://earned.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;earned&lt;/a&gt; a red cent from them yet so I wonder if I might just as well call it quits and try and attract my own ads. I have taken advantage of PayPerPost suddenly offering me two pages of paid reviews where before I was lucky to see two or three irrelevant ones. Things to think about... Terry
Hi Terry,Thanks and congrats on your sites as well. I didn&#039;t check them all but the ones I did all had a nice bump. The problem with the Google bot is that it doesn&#039;t differentiate and this put egg on Google&#039;s face over this past week. Two very mainstream bloggers - problogger and copyblogger were both penalized in the slap last week yet were innocent of selling links. The outrage on the blogosphere was enough to convince Google to manually correct their error and give them back their PR. Other&#039;s like John Chow haven&#039;t been so lucky. It appears that Google only went after the big guns re selling links this time around knowing that the message would get out to everyone &lt;a href=&#039;http://else.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;else&lt;/a&gt; in a hurry and it has. I would stay &lt;a href=&#039;http://clear.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;clear&lt;/a&gt; of text-link-ads as you hinted of doing and you may want to consider the no-follow if doing paid reviews. I suspect that the next slap will include everybody running afoul of Google&#039;s edicts and not just the high profile sites. I am only speculating of course. One thing I did notice is that Google did reward a lot of sites like yours that offer quality and original content - something they have said they would do. Kudos my friend for a job well done. Hey Tey.. wow that rhymes way to go. Congrats on your PR3 as well. As I said to Terry you might have to go the no-follow route for your paid reviews in the future as well. I would wait and see for the time being though - word will spread fast if payperpost and reviewme sites become targeted by Google. If you are wondering how you got the 3 it&#039;s because you write original content and post often. Maybe the Google Bot knows what a nice person you are too! Ha. Thanks for stopping by you two. Grizzly
There&#039;s a wee problem with putting nofollow on paid reviews and that&#039;s because the likes of PayPerPost will reject a review if it doesn&#039;t use the link exactly as given and that includes using target=&quot;_blank&quot; to stop visitors clicking away from the site. Maybe I can add the nofollow after they have paid me for the review - that only leaves the backlink alive for about a month. I&#039;ll try that on a couple of older posts and see if they complain about it. Can&#039;t see that they would unless the advertiser themselves get wind of it and complain to PPP - maybe it could get my account deleted! I can&#039;t afford to lose that too. Losing adsense was a huge blow and despite my re-applying they haven&#039;t given me a decision yet - it&#039;s been over a week which might be good news or it might not... We&#039;ll seeTerry :-)
Here are a few other websites that I can honestly recommend sending you to if you want to learn how to make money online. They provide the info for free.. they have different methods than me but the basics are the same.. and they go out of their way to help others with Vic Franqui - Blogger UnleashedLearn with Courtney TuttleVisit Justin at Blogging Zombie to If you have a blog then you should submit it to If you are new to making money online check out this Video before you start your online journey... Some other very helpful sites that can answer your questions if I&#039;m not available... Frank at Elliot at his blog - Blog ExplosionTerry at his blog - The Honest WayTrent at his blog or at his website. RT at his blog Untwisted VortexCosta at his blog EightBizJustin at his blog SEO ZombieBloggerNoob at his blogSplork at his blogFiar at his blogand of course my &quot;other&quot; blogAll these fellows are knowledgeable about SEO. Blogging. Pre-Owned Domains. Internet Marketing and more - they go out of their way to help people - especially beginners - and they don&#039;t charge you a thing. They are also really nice guys if that matters to you. If you are a beginner then read the right blogs and avoid all the horsesh*t you see on the so called A-List. If you want to earn money online then learn from the people who are doing it right and are not just selling you crap or selling anything for that matter.&lt;br&gt;
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			<name>~Ray &lt;dforums@hotmail.com&gt;</name>
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		<title>Google PageRank - The Day After</title>
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		<modified>2008-10-10T03:10+00:00
		<content type="html" mode="escaped" xml:base="">Unless you slept through yesterday or perish the thought actually did something other than sit in front of your computer you will know that Google finally rolled out it&#039;s long awaited update. For the past two weeks Google has been devaluing the of a lot of big name sites - another major Google slap as it were. The blogosphere moaned and called Google every nasty name in the book for imposing what is thought to be a penalty on everybody selling links without using the no-follow tag. Another theory is that the penalty was applied to everybody that belonged to link networks like weblogs inc etc. I say theory as with everything Google nobody really knows since Google ain&#039;t tellin&#039;. (see a word to the wise below)Yesterday Google reversed &lt;a href=&#039;http://course.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;course&lt;/a&gt; and began dishing out it&#039;s new rankings and suddenly there was Google love everywhere. Hordes of formally PR0 sites suddenly found themselves blessed with PR2&#039;s and 3&#039;s and even the penalized sites saw some or all of their pagerank returned - adding ever more confusion and mystery to the internet God known as the Google Algorithm. I didn&#039;t bother posting yesterday as there was no shortage of posts elsewhere and I was busy checking out the results of my own little empire. In the end what I found was more or less what I expected - my websites dropped - my static blogs remained about the same and my core money blogs all rose fairly dramatically. All in all I wasn&#039;t that surprised as I knew what the results would be long before Google posted them. No I don&#039;t have an insider at Google. I knew from observing what was happening on my stat counter &lt;a href=&#039;http://over.over80blogs.com/&#039;&gt;over&lt;/a&gt; the past month. My websites have more or less been neglected by me as they require a great deal of work compared to blogs and really don&#039;t rank as well as blogs on the search engines even when maintained. I should qualify this and mention I am talking about only. Niche blogs free or hosted have been kicking butt for some time now. My website stats have showed declining traffic as a result of lower serp&#039;s for my main keywords for a while now and this told me that my sites were on the way down as far as pagerank was concerned. In regards to my blogs I have a large &lt;a href=&#039;http://group.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;group&lt;/a&gt; that I post sporadically to - in most cases I worked them onto page 1 of the serp&#039;s just to &lt;a href=&#039;http://find.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;find&lt;/a&gt; out that there wasn&#039;t a lot of money to be made from them and have since kept them at a status quo - they make a few bucks but not enough to get me excited. They have not fallen or risen in the serp&#039;s for some time now and I didn&#039;t expect any PR changes and I didn&#039;t get any. My core blogs - this one included have been climbing the serp&#039;s steadily for the past few months and this above all told me that they would receive a much higher PR after the update and they did - this blog jumped from a 2 to a 5. The &lt;a href=&#039;http://fact.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;fact&lt;/a&gt; is this blog has been a PR5 for a while now - it was only yesterday that the little green bar changed to reflect this fact. I don&#039;t want to rain on everybody&#039;s parade but you should realize something - your site will not perform better today than it did last week. If your little green bar is higher today it means that your site has been performing at that level for a while now. Don&#039;t expect a now - you&#039;ve already had it for some time now. I received an email from one of my readers this morning and he wanted to know why his position in the search pages hadn&#039;t increased from yesterday. He went from a PR2 to a PR4. I asked him where he ranked currently - number 9 on page 1 for his. I asked him how long he has been in that position. 3 weeks he said. Where were you before that? Page 4 on Google he said. I told him that he became a PR4 3 weeks ago. Oh.. he said. This is not to say that PR is not important. It is for many reasons; you can command a higher $ from advertisers. You can also use your PR to send link love to new sites you create and help out your friends. Having a &lt;a href=&#039;http://high.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;high&lt;/a&gt; PR will also make you more friends as well - people will pay attention to you as suddenly you MUST be doing something right. The higher your PR the more authority you will have regardless of whether this is true or not. A word to the wise. Google has publicly stated that paid links are a no-no and that it will crack down on this practice. In principle they have a valid point. To maintain the integrity of their search engine they want to present relevant quality sites in their serp&#039;s. Pagerank is one of the methods they use (but not the ONLY method) to determine which pages rank at the top of the listings for any given search query. The problem they are facing is that people who may or may not have quality sites are artificially increasing their pagerank by buying links from sites that have a high pagerank. If you were to get a link from a PR7 site this could conceivably increase your site to a PR6 instantly - even if you had been a PR0. This would certainly increase your chances of being listed high in the search listings. Great except your site might be crap and you have lessened the search engine integrity. There is a recent movement by bloggers to adopt a &quot;do-follow&quot; or &quot;I-follow&quot; approach when it comes to linking especially in regards to comments. The idea being that this will increase comments and hence if people can obtain links back to their own site by leaving comments on other sites. I was curious to see how Google would deal with this and it appears that they have left it alone in this latest update. They may well have devalued the link juice gained by comment but at least there don&#039;t appear to be any penalties handed out. This can not be said about another recent trend in blogging - paid text ads and reviews. You are probably familiar with Text-Link-Ads. Review Me? and PayPerPost. A lot of bloggers are using these programs as a way to earn revenue on their sites. I am just guessing but I think Text-Link-Ads is just about done as it exists solely for the purpose of buying and selling links that pass Pagerank on to others. A lot of sites that felt the recent Google slap had advertisements for this program on their home page. You might want to think about this before getting involved with it. ReviewMe? and PayPerPost may survive but they may have to become advertising and consulting programs only. Currently you can make money by being paid to review someone else&#039;s site on your site. Google doesn&#039;t have a problem with this as long as you include the &quot;no-follow&quot; tag in the paid link. The problem is that most people paying for a review are asking high PR sites for the review with the knowledge that they will get a backlink from the high PR site that doesn&#039;t contain the &quot;no-follow&quot; tag. This is the whole premise behind these programs at the moment as exemplified by the fact that the higher your PR the more you can charge for a review. This will soon stop or the reviewer sites will see their pagerank diminished by Google. In the end you will have to have a high traffic site to really make money selling reviews using a &quot;no-follow&quot;. This will hurt a lot of high PR yet low traffic sites that currently sell reviews as no one will want to pay them for a backlink that doesn&#039;t have any benefit other than sending a low amount of traffic. If you use these programs I can&#039;t tell you which way to go but the latest Google crackdown on paid links should give you pause about whether to use the &quot;no-follow&quot; tag or not. That said those of you who gained PR this go-round enjoy your little green bar and hopefully we can all make money from it without pissing off Google in the process. Oh. if you gained a high PR you may notice a sudden increase in spam comments - gotta love those spammers. Do any of these clowns actually or do they just enjoy annoying the rest of us?Cheers,Grizzly
Hey Grizzly,Congratulations on your PR5 - that is really cool! I wonder how the big G feel about sites like ours that give a lot of good relevant content but still making a few bucks from selling links? Fair dues if they hit crap sites with high PR doing it but good sites? I wonder if they differentiate?I think the time has come to do away with the useless textLink ad banner on my site - I haven&#039;t earned a red cent from them yet so I wonder if I might just as well call it quits and try and attract my own ads. I have taken advantage of PayPerPost suddenly offering me two pages of paid reviews where before I was lucky to see two or three irrelevant ones. Things to think about... Terry
Hi Terry,Thanks and congrats on your sites as well. I didn&#039;t check them all but the ones I did all had a nice bump. The problem with the Google bot is that it doesn&#039;t differentiate and this put egg on Google&#039;s face over this past week. Two very mainstream bloggers - problogger and copyblogger were both penalized in the slap last &lt;a href=&#039;http://week.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;week&lt;/a&gt; yet were innocent of selling links. The outrage on the blogosphere was enough to convince Google to manually correct their error and give them back their PR. Other&#039;s like John Chow haven&#039;t been so lucky. It appears that Google only went after the big guns re selling links this time &lt;a href=&#039;http://around.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;around&lt;/a&gt; knowing that the message would get out to everyone else in a hurry and it has. I would stay clear of text-link-ads as you hinted of doing and you may want to consider the no-follow if doing paid reviews. I suspect that the next slap will include everybody running afoul of Google&#039;s edicts and not just the high profile sites. I am only speculating of course. One thing I did notice is that Google did reward a lot of sites like yours that offer quality and original content - something they have said they would do. Kudos my friend for a job well done. Hey Tey.. wow that rhymes way to go. Congrats on your PR3 as well. As I said to Terry you might have to go the no-follow route for your paid reviews in the future as well. I would wait and see for the time being though - word will spread fast if payperpost and reviewme sites become &lt;a href=&#039;http://targeted.emailpalblogs.com/&#039;&gt;targeted&lt;/a&gt; by Google. If you are wondering how you got the 3 it&#039;s because you write original content and post often. Maybe the Google Bot knows what a nice person you are too! Ha. Thanks for stopping by you two. Grizzly
There&#039;s a wee problem with putting nofollow on paid reviews and that&#039;s because the likes of PayPerPost will reject a review if it doesn&#039;t use the link exactly as given and that includes using target=&quot;_blank&quot; to stop visitors clicking away from the site. Maybe I can add the nofollow after they have paid me for the review - that only leaves the backlink alive for about a month. I&#039;ll try that on a couple of &lt;a href=&#039;http://older.over80blogs.com/&#039;&gt;older&lt;/a&gt; posts and see if they complain about it. Can&#039;t see that they would unless the advertiser themselves get wind of it and complain to PPP - maybe it could get my account deleted! I can&#039;t afford to lose that too. Losing adsense was a huge blow and despite my re-applying they haven&#039;t given me a decision yet - it&#039;s been over a week which might be good news or it might not... We&#039;ll seeTerry :-)
Here are a few other websites that I can honestly recommend sending you to if you want to learn how to make money online. They provide the info for free.. they have different methods than me but the basics are the same.. and they go out of their way to help others with Vic Franqui - Blogger UnleashedLearn with Courtney TuttleVisit Justin at Blogging Zombie to If you have a blog then you should submit it to If you are new to making money online check out this Video before you start your online journey... Some other very helpful sites that can &lt;a href=&#039;http://answer.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;answer&lt;/a&gt; your questions if I&#039;m not available... Frank at Elliot at his blog - Blog ExplosionTerry at his blog - The Honest WayTrent at his blog or at his website. RT at his blog Untwisted VortexCosta at his blog EightBizJustin at his blog SEO ZombieBloggerNoob at his blogSplork at his blogFiar at his blogand of course my &quot;other&quot; blogAll these fellows are knowledgeable about SEO. Blogging. Pre-Owned Domains. Internet Marketing and more - they go out of their way to help people - especially beginners - and they don&#039;t charge you a thing. They are also really nice guys if that matters to you. If you are a beginner then read the right blogs and avoid all the horsesh*t you see on the so called A-List. If you want to earn money online then learn from the people who are doing it right and are not just selling you crap or selling anything for that matter.&lt;br&gt;
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		<author>
			<name>~Ray &lt;dforums@hotmail.com&gt;</name>
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		<title>NEED HELP! MY COMPUTER HAS BEEN HIJACKED.</title>
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		<modified>2008-01-08T00:37+00:00
		<content type="html" mode="escaped" xml:base="">I have tried many many spyware/adware programs but none of them work. My task bar has a blinking &amp;quot;x&amp;quot;. Although I use Firefox my Internet Explorer homepage has been hijacked by safenavweb com. My background has been hijacked saying that my privacy is in danger. System alerts pop up stating that I undergo a &amp;quot;win32. NetSky&amp;quot; worm. Also each time I reboot icons on my &lt;a href=&#039;http://desktop.virtualblogs.com/&#039;&gt;desktop&lt;/a&gt; appear trying to sell me internet protectors. This my last resort. My HijackThis Log:Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1examine saved at 11:14:56 PM on 10/27/2007Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)Running processes:C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\services exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost exeC:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost exeC:\WINDOWS\System32\wltrysvc exeC:\WINDOWS\System32\bcmwltry exeC:\schedule Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware 2007\aawservice exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv exeC:\WINDOWS\Explorer. EXEC:\WINDOWS\ehome\ehtray exeC:\Program Files\Apoint\Apoint exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\igfxpers exeC:\schedule Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_03\bin\jusched exeC:\schedule Files\CyberLink\PowerDVD\DVDLauncher exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\dla\tfswctrl exeC:\schedule Files\Common Files\InstallShield\UpdateService\issch exeC:\schedule Files\Corel\Corel Photo Album 6\MediaDetect exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\WLTRAY exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\igfxsrvc exeC:\PROGRA~1\McAfee com\Agent\mcregwiz exeC:\Program Files\McAfee com\VSO\mcvsshld exeC:\schedule Files\McAfee com\VSO\oasclnt exeC:\PROGRA~1\mcafee com\agent\mcagent exeC:\PROGRA~1\MUSICM~1\MUSICM~3\MMDiag exeC:\PROGRA~1\McAfee com\PERSON~1\MpfTray exeC:\PROGRA~1\mcafee com\mps\mscifapp exeC:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\SPAMKI~1\MskAgent exec:\progra~1\mcafee com\vso\mcvsescn exeC:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\regsvr32 exeC:\WINDOWS\system32\regsvr32 exeC:\Program Files\Ad Muncher\AdMunch exeC:\schedule Files\DellSupport\DSAgnt exeC:\Program Files\SUPERAntiSpyware\SUPERAntiSpyware exeC:\schedule Files\Digital Line sight\DLG exeC:\Program Files\Apoint\Apntex exeC:\schedule Files\MUSICMATCH\Musicmatch Jukebox\mim exeC:\PROGRA~1\McAfee com\PERSON~1\MpfAgent exeC:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\AOL\ACS\AOLacsd exeC:\Program Files\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\bin\AppleMobileDeviceService exeC:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehRecvr exeC:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehSched exec:\schedule files\mcafee com\agent\mcdetect exec:\PROGRA~1\mcafee com\vso\mcshield.&lt;br&gt;
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			<name>~Ray &lt;dforums@hotmail.com&gt;</name>
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		<title>Comment on 14 Personalized Homepages Compared, Feature by Feature ...</title>
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		<modified>2007-12-15T17:41+00:00
		<content type="html" mode="escaped" xml:base="">We learned this week that which seems to be the next evolution of the go away summon concept. Meanwhile. Facebook is looking increasingly like a startpage. We thought it was time to revisit the startpage market and see whether the new features on each place would convince us to switch.
If you&amp;#8217;ve super-lazy drop straight to the feature grid at the bottom of the article.
is without question the one to beat. Its customization is practically unrivaled. Not only that. Netvibes also provides social functionality by sharing modules with others. Netvibes all in itself could be your one stop solution to finding all your information on the internet. ()
must be considered the main &lt;a href=&#039;http://competition.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;competition&lt;/a&gt; for Netvibes. It also integrates social features desire the ability to share &lt;a href=&#039;http://content.createblogs.org/&#039;&gt;content&lt;/a&gt; as well as see public pages posted by other members called &amp;#8220;Pagecasts.&amp;#8221; The modules (flakes) are all great quality. One little &lt;a href=&#039;http://answer.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;answer&lt;/a&gt; I acknowledge very much is that I can write an email from Gmail directly within the Pageflakes site. I use Pageflakes as my start summon. It has potential to be even exceed than Netvibes in the future. ()
The most popular &lt;a href=&#039;http://examine.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;examine&lt;/a&gt; engine in the world has a start summon as well. Unbelievably named (Apple&amp;#8217;s lawyers may have been surprised) it &lt;a href=&#039;http://allows.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;allows&lt;/a&gt; you to add content to your start page from many third parties. But &lt;a href=&#039;http://compared.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;compared&lt;/a&gt; to the rest of the explore products it just doesn&rsquo;t look as polished to me. That said the iGoogle is super-convenient if you already use a large number of explore products iGoogle now pays successful &amp;#8220;gadget&amp;#8221; create through a scheme called which could mean that the quality and volume of gadgets available increases. ()
to use the MyYahoo go away page. There are a few features that are missing however like the ability to set four columns instead of only three. More generally. Yahoo seems to be playing catch-up with the startups. ()
On the cutting advance of web technology; really does displace out all the stops with there unique interface customization and just all around coolness. The main attraction to yourminis is that it provides you with almost a virtual desktop to organize your information. change surface if you do not use yourminis it would is an &lt;a href=&#039;http://interesting.funnyblogs.net/&#039;&gt;interesting&lt;/a&gt; way to check out what web sites of the future might be like. It is however heavily Flash-based: not everyone is enamored by that fact. ()
Offering more competition is. This site really is a no-nonsense start page. You pick the content you be and it displays it to you in a nice alter interface. It feels like using MyYahoo in a way but it is lacking in customization features. With measure it could become a more serious competitor. Most popular in France. ()
is desire the younger brother of yourminis but trying to copy its big brother&amp;#8217;s success. It does have potential to be very good in the future. For now though it just doesn&amp;#8217;t lade up against the competition in terms of features and it has a few minor quirks and bugs. One thing missing is the support for multiple pages. The interface design is nice especially with the dock-type feature from MacOS on the bottom but everything else just needs more polishing and refining. ()
If WebWag doesn&amp;#8217;t do it for you then maybe ordain. Customization is lacking but it makes up for that with simplicity. It&amp;#8217;s just a simple page to organize information. It appeared to be one of the fastest to fill out of all the sites I tested. The turn side: hardly any features. ()
is really useful if you&amp;#8217;re a fan of Microsoft&amp;#8217;s Live services. I personally accept you are more likely to have this as your go away summon because you have not yet discovered the competition. The &lt;a href=&#039;http://offerings.musicalblogs.com/&#039;&gt;offerings&lt;/a&gt; from Windows be are acceptable but some of the other offerings undergo stronger developer ecosystems around them. It doesn&amp;#8217;t stack up well against it&amp;#8217;s main competitors iGoogle and MyYahoo.
is one of the most disappointing of all. Not because of the design issues or anything of the sort - it&amp;#8217;s very simplistic and it does what it promises to do. It&amp;#8217;s just the annoying bugs with the system. I could only add one cater at a measure where then I had to exit to the main page and then add another feed. It didn&amp;#8217;t really alter comprehend to me. We wonder if Favoor originally covered &lt;a href=&#039;http://here.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; in 2005 may have been abandoned. ()
is more of an RSS reader than a startpage. A virtual RSS desktop reader to be exact. I accept it started out as an RSS reader and now they are trying to alter it a virtual desktop like yourminis. It has much bring home the bacon to be done to win anyone over.
is unlikely to displace anyone to its start page offering - it is just an extremely simplified iGoogle. It&amp;#8217;s only truly useful if you use the other services Inbox provides like its telecommunicate services.
is another virtual desktop for information. You can create modules drag them around the screen and create them in any which way you choose. alter customization is a nice feature. It certainly will not win against yourminis but against the other virtual desktops it might move a few heads. Regularly praised for being the best looking of the clump. ()
really does feel like it is just starting up: it&amp;#8217;s not there yet in terms of features or design. It currently lacks what it would act to compete with the much bigger and better offerings currently available. 
Ultimately there&amp;#8217;s no &amp;#8220;best&amp;#8221; startpage. Netvibes and Pageflakes are not bunco on circumscribe and offer amazing customization iGoogle and My Yahoo are great options if you already use &lt;a href=&#039;http://those.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;those&lt;/a&gt; services. Schmedley and yourminis approach the merchandise uniquely and some populate swear by them.
We would avoid the smaller less featureless sites however especially those that lack a developer community: these are the most likely to fall into disrepair forcing you to move accommodate just as you get settled in.
I undergo a suggestion. Does anyone thought about defining an XML standard for developing gadgets? For example:I like Pageflakes,I want to use google as my search engine,Yahoo mail. Live messenger presence - to see Who&#039;s online and see list of my friends from facebook. I want to use gadgets from any place on any personalize homepage the same way I can reed RSS with any RSS aggregator. Lizi,
I&#039;m a diehard My Yahoo fan -- not sure exactly when that happened but I love the integration between my maail news. RSS feeds and small business/domain management. To be honest it&#039;s not the greatest interface but I get a ton of functionality out of it. AA
I really like NetVibes but its harder to acess all that I want iGoogle has everything that I use on it including gMail GCal and Google Docs. I also use that widget that lets use have a webpage in a tab. It works perfectly.
You really need to act a new look at &quot;My Yahoo.&quot;It has a beta out that allows 4 columns the ability to take off the links along the left column. The ability is there to add any RSS &lt;a href=&#039;http://feed.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;feed&lt;/a&gt; you find and they are continuing to create more Yahoo modules as come up.
I bequeath I was an die hard user since 2002 or so. One of my first customized home pages since (erols. oh man dial up) offers customized content and add ons. But as stated with smaller providers it was not worth it. They returned 0 that in none of my e-mails for give. To this day their cheezy themes are comfort broken if you decide certain combinations. UNRESOLVED. circumscribe goes missing and service unavailable. It&#039;s tough when you rely on your homepage and its not there. I am now a diehard Netvibes user. I commune.&lt;br&gt;
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		<title>Project Pericles programs link students to real world</title>
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		<modified>2007-11-29T19:41+00:00
		<content type="html" mode="escaped" xml:base="">communicate Pericles is an influential national organization that is compiled of 22 liberal arts universities and colleges all over the county including walk University. Dr. MaryAnn Murphy is the Director of Project Pericles at Pace and is also the Director of Center for Community Outreach?at Dyson College. This establishment&#039;s main intend at Pace is to ensure the civic engagement of students as come up as faculty &lt;a href=&#039;http://through.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;through&lt;/a&gt; actions &lt;a href=&#039;http://such.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;such&lt;/a&gt; as voting and change state dialogues and discussions on current events. ?The University as a whole has experienced a calculate cut that has affected the entire campus. communicate Pericles has also encountered some set backs but assures that the organization is still fully capable of functioning.? Heather Novak who is the Assistant Director of communicate Pericles at Pace states that. &quot;Project Pericles has experienced the &lt;a href=&#039;http://same.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;same&lt;/a&gt; calculate cuts as everyone else. We&#039;re doing our beat to continue to give give for civic engagement on the Pace campus.&quot;? She went on to say that Project Pericles is still providing stipends or mini grants for students as come up as faculty. Grants such as the Pace Pericles Fellowship give are awarded to faculty members who &lt;a href=&#039;http://develop.createblogs.org/&#039;&gt;develop&lt;/a&gt; courses that address the topic of social responsibility and &lt;a href=&#039;http://active.musicalblogs.com/&#039;&gt;active&lt;/a&gt; citizenship.???????One set approve that Project Pericles has experienced as a prove of the budget crisis is the loss of the National Project Pericles office last month. The consequence of the cuts was a consolidation of the French Building at Pace University&#039;s offices in Midtown Manhattan from three floors to one. Due to this loss of space. The National Project Pericles offices decided to become independent of the university because they felt that the lay was not adequate enough for &lt;a href=&#039;http://their.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;their&lt;/a&gt; uses. The initiative for communicate Pericles is to educate for active citizenship. They want to get more students involved in the &lt;a href=&#039;http://political.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;political&lt;/a&gt; process in request to get to the root of social issues instead of only volunteering for causes. Through this program students are informed on local national and global issues that plague our world today.? The most prevalent way to bring these issues to the public is mainly through events speakers and films. Civic engagement is also incorporated into the core curriculum at walk University which offers students to not only opportunity learn about present-day issues in the classroom but to also integrate them into the real world. ?Civic engagement is a long measure commitment of walk University and it is the wish of communicate Pericles that the commitment is sustained. Sangeeta Rao an Assistant Director of Project Pericles at Pace expressed the importance of this upcoming year for the program. &quot;We are very happy that funding has remained the same. This is an important year because we are moving towards the presidential election and we want to educate students on the candidates platforms and issues that the candidates stand for.&quot; This is extremely important because young populate do need to make informed decisions about their choices for our next president.? Project Pericles has sponsored alternative move breaks to New Orleans for the past two years with support from the president to subsidize the move. They wish to go back to New Orleans again this upcoming year to fulfill their commitment to the city. Students who want to get involved in Project Pericles can find their offices on 41 lay Row on Mondays through Fridays. ?????????? ?&lt;br&gt;
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		<title>Are Link Strategies Dead?</title>
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		<modified>2007-11-19T14:56+00:00
		<content type="html" mode="escaped" xml:base="">I have never really liked doing link programs. If you yourself have never worked a link program and I mean really getting your hands alter with it not farming it out to India you would not understand just how &lt;a href=&#039;http://awfully.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;awfully&lt;/a&gt; difficult it actually is to get quality inbound links. It is even harder to get inbound links on request without paying for them. In the real world of getting links and I convey the real world not using a link farm tool or a reciprocal link exchange database the contact and followup is hugely time consuming. The results are spotty to be kind and typically of poor quality and response average is miserable. I evaluated a link schedule done by another firm recently for a skeptical client. They had been billed $800 a month for more than a six month &lt;a href=&#039;http://period.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;period&lt;/a&gt; and had received &lt;a href=&#039;http://under.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;under&lt;/a&gt; ten links to &lt;a href=&#039;http://their.wordblogs.net/&#039;&gt;their&lt;/a&gt; website. I accept that a far exceed approach is to &lt;a href=&#039;http://write.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;write&lt;/a&gt; excellent &lt;a href=&#039;http://content.createblogs.org/&#039;&gt;content&lt;/a&gt; hone your website properly undergo a blog do a regular e-newsletter and if you really feel you must create verbally &lt;a href=&#039;http://free.wordsblogs.com/&#039;&gt;free&lt;/a&gt; articles for article sites that include a link approve to you in the footer. I have been able to get placement for sites on explore and the other search engines for myself and clients without link programs. Does that convey that people don&#039;t link to my site no populate ordain link to sites that provide valuable information freebies whitepapers and circumscribe that enriches their own visitor&#039;s experience. So stop wasting &lt;a href=&#039;http://money.joinblogs.com/&#039;&gt;money&lt;/a&gt; and resources on link programs get back to basics working your place. alter it the best it and can be and start providing valuable information that will really help people not just information on what you personally sell.&lt;br&gt;
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